[quote=Double] I'm just going to say this now. I have zero interest in seeing who can be the bigger douche, Wernher. So don't expect me flanderize and make a complete ass of Dawn just for that. Besides, Dawn is meant to be charming and likable in his antics, not an outright insufferable asshole. So they're not the same thing at all really. [/quote] Which means you're saying Flicker is a douche. You know I was using sarcasm, but if I haven't made that clear enough I'm sorry and I should practice my writing some more. Hard to convey feelings and emotions through words sometimes and I'm afraid english is not my native language.