[quote=@Willy Vereb] So? In spite of your "experience" this is the first time you hear about synthetic rubber? If needed we can make rubber even out of coal. And sure, in 2080 we still use rubber seals. Especially for underground factories made to last hundreds of years. Seriously, just stop. Nobody even cares about this detail here. This is fiction. Get your head warped around it.[/quote] You just added a serious amount of steps to the production of rubber, at which point when you have the coal just use it directly to make raw power. You'd need to now render the coal as a gas, which then need to be mixed with butaidiene. Then when that's all done: it needs to be polymerized with a mix of vulcanization chemicals. And where is anyone in the world going to get half of this? It's already an incredibly difficult process. At this point, just get a fucking rubber tree. You already need the rubber to perform these processes anyhow. You're really stretching yourself here. [quote]Well, then you read something wrong. For starters the GM wants a nation game with lots of interactions between players. Not a player versus faceless wasteland setting.[/quote] >Implying Fallout-like isn't in the title and most of us not in America totally aren't already separated by huge tracts of empty land that OP promises to fill with "native rebellion" for us to make our lives difficult. [quote]Besides, talk to the players who already have power armors and laser guns here. I don't see any portion of the setting being destroyed, do you? [/quote] The point in this is to cause a stop and reconsideration per the norms of the setting and the otherwise limited confines in respect to laser rifles. But I'm beginning to suspect OP doesn't really read anything.