[quote=@The Kid Lantern] The one reason I even own comics with Damian in them... is because Grayson was Batman. Grayson's acrobatics surpassed even Batman's with his upbringing, and it was cannon for years he was the 2nd greatest detective in the DCU before the New52 reboot. He was the leader of a contingency Justice League and a founder of the Teen Titans. All of that to me would look a lot better on a resume than 'trained by assassins.' I prefer Grayson as Nightwing, don't much care for the 'Agent 37 of Spyral' stuff going on now. Damian has Bruce's DNA, but Grayson will always be more of a son and successor. Historically speaking, Robin/Grayson is one of the most important characters in comics. When I think of Damian as Batman I think of the Batman #666 issue. That's not what Batman should be IMHO, didn't care for that take at all. The only time I've enjoyed a more hardcore Batman was when Tim Drake was still just Robin, when it showed the 'Titans of Tomorrow' and in the twisted future he was a more brutal adult Batman who used the same gun that killed Bruce's parents to execute criminals. I remember reading that and thinking 'holy shit, THAT'S an interesting twist.' Also, because Damian THINKS he deserves it just because he's got Bruce Wayne's DNA is probably what pisses me off the most about him. Like that kid who became king in Game of Thrones. Grayson was Robin shortly after Bruce became Batman, and even when he left out on his own he still stayed in the superheroics. If Batman got in costume and started operating before Superman, that makes Grayson more experienced than a good portion of the DCU. What's Damian's actual hero career amount to, a year or two? I also kinda thought it was a bad move after Batman's had three adopted sons to give him a biological heir. It defeats the purpose of the others not being blood related. Okay, rant over. LOL. Sorry, but I find very few instances to show my nerd side. I'll leave the subject with this: I LOVE the We Are Robin series. And I'm trade waiting the Robin War story. ~KL~ [/quote] What about Terry McGinis? He was also Batman.