[quote=@BlackPanther] .....arizona is not totally just dessert flagstaff for instance has seasons...even snow and theres pine top which that and flagstaff both have amazing forests *shrugs* just saying technically putting rivers and such wouldn't change the climate of the desert...it would just cause for there to be water and dried up plants since plants that are not accommodated to the desert would die (except for mesquites...those are our invasive plants...and in this case plantoids) I'm probably overthinking it and getting really technical which isn't necessary, but sometimes i can't help it...it just rolls out occasionally [/quote] I kind of know that, I live here, but I'm just saying that these are gods.