[quote=@Keyguyperson] The good thing here is that Trump can't win. If he ends up as the Republican candidate, then he doesn't get ANY independent voters, who are the only reason we have had presidents from both parties. If Bernie is the Democratic candidate, then Bloomberg runs and most likely gets quite a few Republican voters because he's not Trump. Honestly, in a Trump vs. Sanders race, Bloomberg wins. All of Clinton's supporters would immediately switch to him, and a bunch of Republicans would as well. In a Trump vs. Clinton race, independents choose Clinton and she wins. So in other words, we either get another old, moderate white guy as President, or we get to have our first female president. Too bad there would never be another one, because the US would presumably erupt in Civil War because Hillary seems to think that it's perfectly logical to just confiscate firearms despite the fact that they're ingrained in America culture and also protected by the constitution. Then again, maybe Hillary will just be generally incompetent instead of Civil War-level divisive. Because we all know damn well that at least half of what she says is just taken out of the latest Democratic opinion poll. [/quote] Hillary won't do much. She isn't that sort of candidate. She will play what seems prudent at any given time. Her gun talk now is because the gun issue is where Sanders is inconsistent. If she runs nationally, she will tone down the gun talk. If she becomes President, she will make less out of it than Obama has. Obama is the type of guy who is determined to make a name for himself, but Hillary seems perfectly fine playing ball with the powers that be. Also, I am not convinced Bloomberg would take all of Clinton's voters in a Sanders/Trump/Bloomberg match-up. He'd take some, and He'd take some of Trumps from those moderate Republicans who really don't like Trump, but a lot of Clinton's votes come down to name recognition. Bloomberg is certainly a recognizable name, but not in the "Synonymous with Democrat" way that Clinton's name is. Plus, if Bloomberg runs third party, he is going to run at a disadvantage in that he isn't going to have a guaranteed voter base. I don't know who would win in that case, but I really doubt it would be Bloomberg. My gut instinct says Sanders wins, but I have a bit of a blind eye for the guy since I'm currently in his camp. He seems to be able to withstand Clinton's attacks, the question is if he will be able to withstand the Republicans. And of course, it is entirely possible we haven't seen the full extent of Trump's expert media game.