[quote=FortunesFaded] I agree, i think it'd make the Tindrel race more appealing and (as Catharyn pointed out) more choices. I'm just wondering if organizations such as the New Collective and HiveTank (more pacifist organizations it seems) would want to be lumped in with the Liberation Front and the Black Carapace? Though their goals seem to be the same, the way they go about it varies completely and it makes me wonder if someone in the New Collective would even support the practices of the Black Carapace? [/quote] Aha, but it's HiveTank running the show, using the more violent organisations in tandem with the peaceful ones in a carrot-and-stick measure. The way I'm currently seeing the Eliazoph, or at least some of them, is that they're very good at long-term planning. The Tindrel in these organisations are also desperate to get themselves out of the mire, and the general opinion is that the best way to do that is to work together, no matter what you think of your neighbours. After all, the TEFfers are probably unlikely to ever deal with Black Carapace or Shadow-Weavers. Might not even know they're affiliated with them.