I'm feeling the Undertale with all this talk about souls

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...Wouldn't Zephyrion be more likely to be Sheograth out of all of us?

WE CAN MAKE A BETTER WORLD THIS TIME WHERE THULEMIZ WON'T EXIST!

@Kho

I figured you'd rejoin as a player when summer came and you had more time. Is that not so?

If it's not so, then there will be no Thulemiz and therefore no need for any Great Lich Lord nonsense ;p

I think necromancy makes the most sense if it worked by using Mammon's occult magic. Perhaps it could be done by summoning a demon to possess a corpse, or preventing the victim's soul from leaving its body even in death.

Slough can't create new souls. What's all this nonsense about splitting souls into spirits? That's so confusing. How about I lay a knowledge smackdown on you.

A soul is the incorporeal and immortal essence of a living being. The characteristics of a soul were outlined in detail and given names by the Egyptian pagan beliefs. They include the Personality of the being (what makes it unique), the Heart of the being (strong emotion associated with it in life), the Shadow of the being (its impact on the world; comparable to memories), the Name of the being (representative of its power and status), and the Vital Spark (what makes the soul alive). New souls can only come into existence in sentient beings, but souls can be forced into non-sentient beings to 'empower' them.

Slough's reincarnation takes all five of these soul elements and puts them in a new form. The Vital Spark is preserved completely, but the other four are dulled by the process to the point of a lack of self-awareness and maybe a lack of sentience depending on the damage, though still essentially the same being.

I imagine that necromancy, flawed and abominable sorcery that it is, would take only the Heart, the Shadow, and the Name, sacrificing the Personality and the Vital Spark as part of the wasteful process. Ultimately, this process destroys the soul when the undead body is destroyed, disintegrating rather than rejoining the Primordial Pool. The Heart provides an approximation of the Personality, but far more emotional and extreme, as befits one who 'came back wrong'.

The Pool, now, should be a well of souls in their entirety. Dead beings' souls automatically relocate to the Pool upon their death, unless some curse gets in the way, and the souls remain in the Pool until someone does something with them.

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I am an enormous fan of the soul-centered RPG where you can kill things or perform odd gestures in front of them, and there's a friendly skeleton.

Undertale? Pah. I'm talking

@Lugubrious Pretty sure the whole removing elements-of-soul thing is splitting souls á la Reathos' suggestion.

I was getting a pretty big Dark Souls vibe too.

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You forget what happens to Necromancers who defile Death's purity...

In which Jvan revs her engine and creates an ocean by squeezing blood from a stone.

I'll fill out a Creation form sometime.

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I think I remember starting a goblin vs. wraith war with that guy. Good times.

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Yeah, Big Red pops up out of nowhere in a cheap "plot twist" and Hell itself swallows up the universe.

I didn't get tagged :c
Shit's dank af though

@Kho ...You guys were never intended on making anything really self-substaining and functional back in the previous installments were you?

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Pah, you and your eternal quest for power and complaints about the logical consequences xP
It's almost as though Ialu never got cursed by Fergus and never nearly got his ass handed to him by Invictus himself...

@Kho
I think necromancy makes the most sense if it worked by using Mammon's occult magic. Perhaps it could be done by summoning a demon to possess a corpse, or preventing the victim's soul from leaving its body even in death.

In which Jvan revs her engine and creates an ocean by squeezing blood from a stone.

I'll fill out a Creation form sometime.

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I think I remember starting a goblin vs. wraith war with that guy. Good times.

This is what the sea looks like... [+]

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That's a...cool idea. A weak demon made much stronger by a premade physical body. It'd certainly work with the whole theme of the occult. The interactions between souls and demons would be very interesting. I could imagine monsters formed out of half-demon half-mortals, where part of their soul has been returned -- but the rest is supplanted by demons. Perhaps they would hunger for more souls to fill themselves up with. But that would depend on whether Slough/Legion/Fretzzo were down with allowing that kind of stuff to happen.