[quote=@LeeRoy] [@Fallenreaper] Edit: Also gun-fu is the tightest shit in the history of shit and the fact that it is literally non-existent in the Arena is the most disappointing thing I've ever seen. [/quote] I have a gun-fu character. She's granted me my official win and wins before we were keeping track. Funny how my gun character wins all the time. Sure, for realistic humans if you don't have a gun then you can beat someone with a gun if you're able to outmaneuver and out think your opponent in an environment that favors you. However, your choice of not using a gun gives you 0 advantage other than for the fun. You can only negate your disadvantages if you outplay your opponent, and if you're able to defeat them without one you could have defeated them with one far easier. The gun has the advantage at every distance. Put two people within swinging distance. The gun user just has to move their finger while the melee weapon user must swing their whole arm. Go one step further and put them with the sword point pressed against the gun user's chest. The gun user can still fire off a bullet quicker than the sword could travel through their chest, and continue firing while the melee weapon is inside them, while the melee weapon can't repeatedly stab or slash nearly as quickly as any modern gun so they better hope their first strike hits true to stop them from unloading their entire clip into you at point blank range. And of course at long range the advantages are even more ridiculous over the melee weapon. So yes, the no gun person still can win, but without any advantage outside of the roleplayer not fighting them outright and just playing a lot better. We should all be able to admit it's not really balanced, but can still be fun if you're into it.