[quote=@Vilageidiotx] It's a tad disingenuous to count super delegates quite yet. If Sanders wins more state delegates, the dens would be playing a dangerous game using super delegates to override the popular decision. Not saying they won't do it, but it wouldn't be the smart move, since Clinton is already a controversial figure, and the accusation of gaming the primary would be easier to,stick on her than really any other candidate. My opinion is that this election has already deviated too far from the script to predict. If I had to place a bet it would be for a Hillary vs Trump general with Trump taking the prize, but it wouldn't be a comfortable bet. It won't surprise me if any of the top five candidates running right now at least make it to the general. [/quote] Do you really think people will vote Trump over Hillary? I'm pretty sure the whole, we need to solely bring in our next president because of their ____ vote them or you're a horrible person, shtick by the media will more than likely work a third time...and then a fourth. Because I may be pessimistic, but the average person has to be very, very stupid. (or easily influenced at the very least.) I mean, there was one poll that had Sanders actually winning in percents but somehow losing in every one. So, it wouldn't be surprising that they pull some shady stuff, to make Hillary win regardless of his popularity. Though, do polls ever mean anything? I saw a poll trying to say even a small percent chance Biden or people like Kasich would win. Then I laughed.