[quote=@Vilageidiotx] It's a tad disingenuous to count super delegates quite yet. If Sanders wins more state delegates, the dens would be playing a dangerous game using super delegates to override the popular decision. Not saying they won't do it, but it wouldn't be the smart move, since Clinton is already a controversial figure, and the accusation of gaming the primary would be easier to,stick on her than really any other candidate. My opinion is that this election has already deviated too far from the script to predict. If I had to place a bet it would be for a Hillary vs Trump general with Trump taking the prize, but it wouldn't be a comfortable bet. It won't surprise me if any of the top five candidates running right now at least make it to the general. [/quote] The reason 'Clinton games the primary process' would stick is because [b]she absolutely will do that regardless of what you think about it, and the press will bow.[/b] The Clintons are the Democrat establishment, and the Democrat establishment owns a massive majority of relevant media. So, buckle up, because that's happening. [quote=@SleepingSilence] Though, do polls ever mean anything? [/quote] No. Polls are conducted in order to obtain a desired result, and the 'desired result' in this case typically refers to headlines capable of feeding the 24-hour news cycle. Polls mean nothing whatsoever. [url=http://www.forbes.com/2008/11/01/exit-polls-election-oped-cx_kb_1103bowman.html]Exit polls, as in, "You just voted, who did you vote for?" don't even mean anything.[/url] Ignore all polls. They have a certain amount of relevance to the campaigns themselves -- but campaigns don't use the gallup or the CNN.com poll or whatever else YOU get to look at. They all have their own, confidential, tailored pollsters. The polls you have access to are shit.