[quote=@Wisp] [@Archmage MC] To be fair, both Superman and Batman are "Mary Sue" characters - they're just able to be labeled as such for different reasons. Superman, because he's pretty OP - though he wouldn't be considered so on his home planet - and Batman because of his behaviour and backstory. [/quote] Yep yep. xD I'm just super chatty and trying to help [@Princeofhearts]'s char idea to work assuming their dead set on it. Problem with Superman is the extreme lack of weaknesses for so many powerful and pricy powers, and even then his weaknesses aren't that strong anyway. [quote=@Princeofhearts] [@Archmage MC] I got a feeling you want my character to be hella weak. If it was like this, I would've just made something else other than Kryptonian but I'll see what I can do. [/quote] I don't want it to be super weak, its more the Teen Titans setting and powerlevel area than anything. And lack of palpable weaknesses against any villain that isn't the top tier DC villains, which the Titans don't really fight since its out of their powerlevel range. (I'm not including any batman villains here because they are pretty low on the DC power scale if their name isn't Joker. And even he isn't that high on the scale tbh.) Also admittedly I'm an advid Superman hater. xD [quote=@Wisp] [@Archmage MC] To be fair, both Superman and Batman are "Mary Sue" characters - they're just able to be labeled as such for different reasons. Superman, because he's pretty OP - though he wouldn't be considered so on his home planet - and Batman because of his behaviour and backstory. edit ;; I gotta go, though, so I hope you guys can sort this out. (I'd really leave the decision up to the GM, though.) [/quote] Yeah, I'mma do that. The basically carbon copy of Superman's powerset with 100k tons of SS really raised red flags in my head though. xD