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Alright. So my plan was to roll, dodging Mary's sword, turn back, grab Mary by the leg, holster the hammer, and then swing her into Gomory.


Well, Mary's still not actually attacked, and what you describe would be autohitting against Kafka's character, but I'm fine with seeing how that might play out.

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You fight Lady late in DMC3, though. If you haven't gotten gud at the game, she'd boot even an upgraded Dante's ass up and down the street. Hell, you can control her, and she's as much of an ass-kicker as Dante and Vergil are.


True, true. There's something to be said for gameplay and story segregation, and I still don't think Lady is remotely an equal combatant to Dante, but I will give credit where credit is due: she's pretty cool.
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You have it.

Lady kicked little demons' asses. She was a joke to Dante when she tried to fight him.

@IncredibleBee Tickler isn't all that young (being about 20) but I assume your wording was relativistic, right?


Lady fought past everything in the Temen-ni-Gru save for Arkham and Vergil, and was a late-game boss fight.

Furthermore, if we account for DMC4SE, she is perfectly capable of fighting boss level demons, Dante, and a Sparda-empowered demon pope. In fact, her playstyle is pretty much an enhanced Gunslinger style Dante, and KA packs a few moves unavailable to Dante when he used it in DMC3.
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Lady is an ass kicker of the highest caliber... For a perfectly normal human being. You have to remember the differences in gameplay and in story. Don't get me wrong, I think she'd wipe the floor with just about any real life person, but she just isn't in the same league as the sons of Sparda even on their worst days.
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It would be, hence why I asked earlier.
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Well, Mary's still not actually attacked, and what you describe would be autohitting against Kafka's character, but I'm fine with seeing how that might play out.

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True, true. There's something to be said for gameplay and story segregation, and I still don't think Lady is remotely an equal combatant to Dante, but I will give credit where credit is due: she's pretty cool.


No, there is nothing to be said for gameplay/story segregation when you consider that TST-level gameplay Dante is stronger than cutscene Dante.
If you can't see Lady's value as a combatant than you likely haven't taken the time to learn her moves.

And even in the cutscenes, Lady still kicks everyone's shit in. That's why she is a late-game boss.
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No, there is nothing to be said for gameplay/story segregation when you consider that TST-level gameplay Dante is stronger than cutscene Dante.
If you can't see Lady's value as a combatant than you likely haven't taken the time to learn her moves.

And even in the cutscenes, Lady still kicks everyone's shit in. That's why she is a late-game boss.


Well alrighty then jeez. If I had known you cared so much I wouldn't have said anything.
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Well alrighty then jeez. If I had known you cared so much I wouldn't have said anything.


You should expect a player in a DMC/Bayonetta/Darksiders game to know and love the lore/gameplay of the respective games.
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Alright. So my plan was to roll, dodging Mary's sword, turn back, grab Mary by the leg, holster the hammer, and then swing her into Gomory.


I'd be cool with this, but Snider just got combo'd and Mary just got hit, if I'm reading Lug's post right.
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New plan.

@ProPro I hope you're rad enough to go along with this. My dude's gonna get combo'd, land next to his boombox, and change the tune. Then, while we're taking care of the boss, we're also fighting each other over musical taste; so after I change the tune, you're going to change it to something else. All this with the boss fight as a backdrop.
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Go along? Please, that was my plan all along! Mwahahaha!

Edit: Cranky old man fight!
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Finally posted. @rivaan you can kill those demons off if you want and try and get to Gideon as he begins his fight. May want to wait until @Lugubrious posts first though, just saying.
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Just going to write a vague shit post and leave it open so Blair will be fair game to encounter/fight. Since I keeep forgetting to post and get her involved, I can't just have her show up near the gate/where all the action is, after all.
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Lady fought past everything in the Temen-ni-Gru save for Arkham and Vergil, and was a late-game boss fight.

Furthermore, if we account for DMC4SE, she is perfectly capable of fighting boss level demons, Dante, and a Sparda-empowered demon pope. In fact, her playstyle is pretty much an enhanced Gunslinger style Dante, and KA packs a few moves unavailable to Dante when he used it in DMC3.


The latter was for the sake of gameplay, in the former she got beaten without even forcing their Devil Triggers.

Please separate gameplay from actual strengths. Lady for sure is powerful and can take on some powerful demons, but she is definitely not on par with someone like Dante.
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I realize that I want to post, but there isn't much for me to post about just yet XD
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I realize that I want to post, but there isn't much for me to post about just yet XD


Well. You got a five-man boss battle inside a cave, two dudes are fighting sick ass demons at HQ, and one girl's kinda just out there.
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The latter was for the sake of gameplay, in the former she got beaten without even forcing their Devil Triggers.

Please separate gameplay from actual strengths. Lady for sure is powerful and can take on some powerful demons, but she is definitely not on par with someone like Dante.


"Without even forcing their Devil Triggers" doesn't matter because DT isn't a game changer. It's a panic button and the boost it gives is relatively minor. Its stat boost is relatively small and still won't save you if you suck. Even with the Super Dante costume, Vergil 3 will still push your shit in.

Furthermore, there is little difference between abilities they have in-game and in-cutscene. The defining difference is that cutscenes allow for a rapid change of scenery, but rarely is there a huge change in combat abilities. In fact, I think an expert player can push abilities in game even further.

You're also not considering that demonic power is not what makes Dante and Sparda strong. It's their humanity. They state this in literally every game at some point or another.
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Well. You got a five-man boss battle inside a cave, two dudes are fighting sick ass demons at HQ, and one girl's kinda just out there.


Wrath's in the Cistern, I'm just unsure of who's going to shoot at him and what not besides Gormory. And nobody at the Gilgamesh HQ is a Demon. They just use Demon and Angel Arms.
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Welp. Gideon's in for a good ole' fight. Hope my post is cool for its been awhile since I've participated in a battle (shamefully).
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@IncredibleBee There are only six guards, four of which are gunners, all of which are far away, and are standing in a spread formation, which neither qualify as a crowd nor lends itself for skewering, and who are your least concern compared to the Tickler, who you ignored in your post, and who's directly attacking Antonio. Additionally, the Reclaimers are using Devil and Angel Arms for the most part, which are more potent than your character's blessed weapons due to your choice of faction, or at the very least not worthless, which your post certainly indicates. Furthermore, there aren't only bullets attacking you, but also a chain lightening and acid bombs.

I can appreciate the Rule of Cool, but I need you to abide by the facts of the situation I've created. Your post could have existed completely independently of mine, except for the one sentence at the end.
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@Lmpkio YAYYYYYYYYYYY POSTS!!!!!!!! ^_^ Sadly I just don't have the time to post back right now. Have lectures soon and a 2 hour bus travel afterwards whihc means I when I add everything post will be up in at least... five hours -__-' sorry about it. Can't do anything about that right now ><

As for Lady and her power... lady is strong figther. Realistically it has been shown that she can pretty much fight Trish to a stand still. SO I say we stop arguing about this. She is strong, but not to an extend equal to Dante ^_^
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