[@Apokalipse] Well I don't watch the show so I can't judge but I believe they also killed off Lincoln who was an example to why the show was so good (diverse [racially and sexually], complex characters). Like I think I've gone through the whole ordeal that everyone's upset about and I dropped the show that basically insults our intelligence with their repetitive plots and attempts to mislead you so they can "shock you."

Idk if I can agree with you on that. I don't like plot driven shows as much because you generally get cliche characters so you don't have to flesh them out as much because it's about the story and they always end up doing the bullshit shock value thing. I mean look at this RP: it's about the characters and their interactions and how they grow and I think if you have well developed characters it'll drive the plot accordingly. Like OITNB is an AMAZING show that gives each individual character a backstory and room to grow and become complex and that's what makes it so good.

[@HalfOfLancelot] Although I love shipping and the stereotypical shipper (I admit I judge and argue with you on ships. I know I'm the worst kind and give shippers a bad name) I actually don't go into a show looking for ships. I want it to be natural so I know there's something special there. Sometimes I end up shipping nothing at allb or it takes some time.