[quote=@Apokalipse]
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I disagree completely because I have never seen a character-driven show that was more than 75% good. 
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*whispers* Wasn't friends a character-driven show?

So was The Office! D;

And Parks and Rec!

And Community!

[quote=@reiko]
[@HalfOfLancelot] Although I love shipping and the stereotypical shipper (I admit I judge and argue with you on ships. I know I'm the worst kind and give shippers a bad name) I actually don't go into a show looking for ships. I want it to be natural so I know there's something special there. Sometimes I end up shipping nothing at allb or it takes some time.
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I tend to be into a show for the stories and the characters. I tend to be in fandoms for shipping.

We're opposites, though, in that I'm fine with everyone else's ships - even the ones that don't make sense or are more taboo. I don't like arguing about things like that; I'm just happy to have content to read or see, in terms of ships. I'll give you my reasons for not shipping something, but I'll never tell you that you're wrong for shipping it or that it doesn't make any sense to ship it. I'm a goody-two-shoes irl and it translates everywhere else. Even if my humor's a little... out there.

The only problem I have in relations to a ship is if the character in question was canonically LGBT and the person decides to forgo all of that. We're so gypped on representation (as Apok says) that it's not at all right or fair to the character or the people who relate to them, imo. That's the only time I'll get touchy about a ship.

It's one thing to ship a straight character with their gender (people do that all the time and there's a plethora of heterosexual men and women in media) it's another thing entirely to ship a lesbian character with a man or a gay man with a lady (who people have to squeeze through numerous, numerous things to get even an inkling of rep). That's why it's such a big thing that Deadpool's pansexuality translating from comics to the movie was such a big thing or that Mark Hamill said what 'Go for it' concerning Luke Skywalker's sexaulity. (or that Iceman's gay haha. I'm still not over it. I'm still noT OVER IT)