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Did you even take an argument class? 
Ethos: An argument based on Ethical values. (such as the rules or laws.)
Logos: An argument based on Logical values.
Pathos: An argument based on emotional values.
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No. 

By this logic; do you need a class in DnD to play DnD?

No.

We can throw as much hypothetical scenarios as you want, but logic dictates that they are invalid. You would have to re-work fundamental laws in society and social norms. If you have a hypothetical scenario that does not change this, then the hypothetical scenario is false and invalid.
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Again it was never in question whether my theory was invaled as we both understand it was.. and on that point i understood and in multiple paragraphs said that you where right he would not cast the spell! The point is that if he did (which He would not!) I would have gotten away with it and he would pay the price... Not based on whether he would but on the unrealistic, unethical possibility that he did! Even though in actual game he would not. There for you argument falters because you continue to misunderstand the point. this is not something that would happen in game but a scenario based on whether it did. Now so far it seems i would get away with theft and he would be held accountible for the tavern, the victim, and assualting an unarmed tiefling. in My scenario. The funny thing about a joke or threat is that sometimes and in a jokes case most the time they are illogical. and since my argument was based of that threatening joke he made... then it must follow the same line of logic the joke had even if it was faulty. The only reason you can not  my point is through your own pride and arragence. Just give up.. On every count i have beaten you because you refuse to acknowledge the purpose of the argument in your attempt to be right on every count. I can admit my faults and have done so. Would it kill you to put aside your pride and see the point. I little humility never hurt anyone. The thing is argument can be fun if your not always trying to be right.. but that requires humility. At first it seemed fun but you can never admit fault on your side no matter the situation. You said you where older than most of us here right? I thought you would be more fun than this and not so stuck up. sorry.