[quote=@ScreenAcne] This is a weird thing to piss me off but Bioshock and politics/ philosophy. Whenever I try to watch something bioshock related it's all "Oh. Masterful rebuttal of Ayn Rands stupid ideas lol" or in the case of number 2 how it criticizes collectivism and using the poor. No one actually pays attention to bioshock plot because if they did they'd understand that the game doesn't make any points for or against Objectivism- hell I'm not even sure it actually practiced objectivism. Mostly on its charity crap but fuck it...read her work or visit an objectivist forum if you want to judge for yourself- Rapture only started falling apart when Ryan turned away from his ideals and tried to essentially make it into a nationalist, big government state. Yes it had a crime problem but that wasn't a direct result of its capitalism or loose regulation more than it was artificially allowed to thrive due to its isolationist law. Which is ironic, that one of its only laws is the one that instigates and cages all the disputes into one big organized, criminal coup. If anything I could turn around and go "See, rapture in ten years leaped ahead above all other nations and governments following objectivitm and only fell when big government stepped in. Aided, of course by a crook manipulating the poor. There go Ryand speech about big authority and shallow altruism proved true" I could...but I won't. Because that's stupid. What made bioshock 1 and 2 good was that the whole thing was about both a city and the people in it trying to live up to their ideals. In real life, I don't care who you are or what ideals or even philosophy you follow. Life both supports it and is against it, that's life. It dosen't treat cities no different that it treats people. What gave rapture...a city...so much personality was that both wore the accomplishment of life struggle to stand by those ideals and the disfigurements. Bioshock shouldn't be used as an impulse cash in of on how "left or right" were incorrect. It should be used as an example of how to combine people to their ideology and yet still make them flawed and fragile humans, yet heroes/villains by living to their convictions in terms of writing. It is a warning, that dreams are worth fighting for but no man can fight forever and not become disfigured. [/quote] Bioshock gave birth to too many libertarians, so for that reason I cant forgive it.