[quote=@Dynamo Frokane]
EDIT:[color=9e0b0f] and your mnaking another blanket assertion you cant say that movies games literature have no effect on someone's political leanings, do you realise how many people became libertarians after reading Atlus Shrugged or George Orwell's 1984?

And how many people became anti war after watching platoon or saving private ryan?

Powerful forms of media can inform opinions, not everyone's but to say no ones is a little short sighted.[/color]
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I think it's you making blanket statements. XP While it's less than you probably think. I never said media cannot change or shape some part of your opinions. I said Bioshock of all things, is not likely one of those things that created libertarians. ;)

[quote=@Dynamo Frokane]
[color=9e0b0f]You realize you can be passionately malicious right? You can't assert that 'many would agree that its a fact' not when you are making leaps of definition like that.[/color]
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"Also passion doesn't always equal lunatic. Not quite what I'm going for here..." - Me a mere post ago.

Moving on. <.<

Fine, saying that particular part is a fact, may not be the perfect word to use...but your completely ignoring the main point of my argument. Even if two things are wrong, one thing CAN be MORE wrong than the other. 


[quote=@Dynamo Frokane]
[color=9e0b0f]How much you like or want to side with an individual, but logically it doesn't really matter.

And those gun stats are fine, I just said I'm not making a an anti gun argument, this is why I think youre sensitive and lumping me in with some leftist gun banning hippies, I just told you I dont give a shit about the U.S.A.'s gun policy, dont strawman me sir.[/color]
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I don't honestly think this is going to get us anywhere. So just fair warning I'm probably going to agree to disagree with your overall statement and leave it at that. I really should be doing other things, beside this. But calling me sensitive is why this next statement needs to happen.

[quote=@Dynamo Frokane]
[@SleepingSilence] [color=9e0b0f]politically I don't agree with you but...[/color]
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Getting into the weeds and going off topic. (though it encapsulates my point.) I've literally never had anyone politically right (or centered). EVER do this to me. People that bring politics into personal or things not related. Are the very definition of passion in a negative way. Caring SO MUCH about differences of opinion you HAVE the desperate need to cast them down before you're able to admit you like/agree with something they say. I don't think I should be having a debate of "Logic Prevails Above All Else" when Meninist is being used like its a real thing. And yes you say you see that its a joke, but if you agree that not even half of libertarians have all those opinions you previously stated. Why even say it? :/

Also this is getting mildly too long for me to continue this much longer. -.-