[quote=@SleepingSilence] [@Vilageidiotx] Well I couldn't even pretend to be busy, my whole weekend was screwed up. So I literally had nothing better to do. #NoLife (I mean I was listening to music, so at least I was multitasking. <.<) [hider=In case you were being serious.] I'll throw ya bone, if you want to rebutt what I wrote. Fuck going through all of it, You only need to do two things. Explain, why the Post Office is the perfect example of government efficiency. (and is not a completely bankrupt, 100 billion in debt and nearly obsolete program, and how government taxing emails to fund the post office is a good idea.) And how that in anyway helps/or even correlates to the argument of socialism in medicine... I implore you, [b]please[/b] don't try... [/hider] [/quote] Well, I'm on the way out so I'll just say what first comes to mind. With the postal service, we aren't talking about a new-fangled liberal invention, we're talking about one of the first government organizations founded in American history. I mean, Benjamin Franklin was the first Post Master General. Not only that, government funded postal systems date back to the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Road]Achaemenid Empire in the 500's BC.[/url] In all that time, [i]now[/i] is when it becomes inefficient and impracticable? Something needing reform doesn't mean it needs to die and never be born again. I won't argue there isn't corruption here, but that doesn't mean we need to hand the entire system over to aristocratic control. As for socialized medicine, the big issue in the United States and the reason support for it is picking up steam is because there is a multi-billion dollar middle man in the insurance industry that would be eliminated by a real socialized system. That's why Obamacare doesn't really work for anybody but the people who couldn't get healthcare at all before; it doesn't address the insurance industry, it basically just subsidizes them. I said before, after all, that I like Obamacare in a morbid way because it has made it difficult to maintain private healthcare insurance without being unpopular (since you either have to rip access to healthcare from thousands of people to repeal it, or you have to socialize it) but I do not live under any illusions that it is a good thing on its own. After all, I'm paying 120 a month for that bullshit along with the rest country. And I'm paying it, of course, to a private insurance company. In a public system, people making multi-billion dollars off the system would be seen and correctly assuaged as corruption. In a private system, the guy becoming a billionaire is the purpose of the system and medical care is an afterthought put in place to maintain his revenue, and only as much as it maintains his revenue.