[quote=@RogerD] Would Vaapd even be avaialble as it was a creation of Winud's? [/quote] True, but I was speaking more for myself than a character I would create :) Juyo and Vaapad are considered forbidden forms by the council, as emotion is seen as a trip to the dark side, but it is later listed among the forms. Same as Djem So was developed from Shien. Mace and Depa Billaba were the only ones to master it, unfortunately Depa later falling to the dark side. As a person, I do yoga, and for my Jedi Academy, I was able to teach meditations and breathing exercises. By mastering my emotions and finding that mind body balance, my master is allowing me to learn Vaapad :p But I am small in stature, (I am your average short girl), and while I can certainly hold my own in a duel, I find it easier to use ones moves against them. Defense will only get you so far. Edit- I don't think I have ever felt like a bigger dork before just now lol It isn't my intention to take the fun out of it for anyone, so I am hugely sorry if I am >.<