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I consider myself a pretty patient person honestly, I was raised that the more fire you throw in the forest the less wood you get to cut down later.

But man, you can't be like this. I really respect the fact that you run this RP because you've done it for a year and it still stands with so many people who are still here from the beginning. But a bigger part of the reason people are still here is the people who talk about this story we're creating every single day. Every single day people like Plank, and like Shadow, Snow, Crimmy, I'm sure you think about it too. Every day we create stories together and we talk about them. But you don't get to disrepsect epople like that. And I'm sure as shit biased towards a lot of people in this RP. But everyone here was thinking it. We all thought you were ignoring me, because Shadow and I asked nearly the exact same questions and he would get a response. It was the public opinion, without a doubt.

When I came back into this RP Plank was actually one of the guys who fought VGNBB, in fact he may have been the reason for Estelle's creation. It actually wasn't until a little bit later that he and I got to talking, we apologized introduced ourselves. We know each other pretty well now, shoot the shit that kind of thing.

But man, I'm a pretty shitty GM. I've run a couple RP's and god forbid they make it a month, let alone a year. And I wasn't sure what I was doing wrong, what I was missing, I was always thinking, planning, talking, collaborating, everything.

It's the people. It's the group of people who are in it together. Right now there's a player who I really appreciate the presence of, not too active IC whose thinking about dropping. He know's who he is. And the people who have talked with him and written with him have been worried. Because we all like this story enough to stick out a hell of a lot to stay together in it. Because it's got just the right amount of something special that we love everyone's characters.

But while you praise my patience in that very post you absolutely praticed none of it. I'll say it again since this post is running long but I have the utmost respect for the fact that you're still here. Because this kind of shit is seasonal. And god knows Plank could've been nicer about it like I was. But man, watching what was unfolding as it was happening, I was kind of offended and I don't really get offended. So to shut him down when he's attempting to stick up for me, I just can't stand for it honestly.

You kick him you're kicking me man. There's no two ways about it.
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I'd ask to be forgiven for taking more than five minutes to think up an appropriate response, which is something that has evidently escaped you, but I'm honestly sick with trying to be accommodating to your hair-trigger temper. I'm aware of my own communication issues and I've been doing the best I can. Not instantly pumping out a response is not indicative for ignoring; for instance, I haven't assumed that you were ignoring the multiple posts I've written IC while you've been not posting for more than a month. I merely assumed that you were busy. If I'm a shameless and aggravating moron, then at least Write is being courteous and mature enough to deal with me like an adult, and not foam at the mouth with nastiness at the slightest indication of a slight on someone else's behalf. I applaud Write for his patient and considerate treatment of me. You, on the other hand, have made my minuscule brain ache one too many times. For Heaven's sake, either mind your own business or mind the door on your way out.

@Write I am very glad to clear up any misunderstandings I may have and strive to provide a better creative environment from you. Expect my PM shortly.


A. You are in the negligible-ass minority of people I haven't been able to get along with in a roleplay over the last seven or eight years. Your attitude as a GM, your passive-aggressive attitude towards players, and completely kneejerk and left field responses like disbanding an entire senior team when someone asks where the hell they're gonna put a freshman have left me torn between two conclusions: stupidity or apathy, bordering on antipathy for a selection of your playerbase. Despite what you may think, I know you ain't stupid, Lug. I just know you're an asshole.

B. I have been busy, actually. I've been wrapping up schoolwork, I've been switching over to a new laptop, I've been looking at transfer options for my last two years of college. Hell, I live on a beach in the month of June - you really think that tugging my dick in a meaningless circlejerk like Brewing Storm for my seventh straight month is how I want to spend it? I've been dedicating more time to Beacon - and staying more active in the OOC and in Skype groups - than for any other game on my roster. I dug for fucking gold looking through your post history just now to rebut what the hell you're talking about, and it turns out that you and I have been posting at about the same rate for the past month or so, and I was posting a hell of a lot more frequently before that. Maybe pump the brakes a bit before you accuse me of moving like a snail's orgasm there, chief.

C. No contest. Write's a top lad, I'd bear his children.

D. You really don't want me to quit. I would, because I love Lauren to death and God gave me the balls and the brains to know how to write her in most any RWBY setting I want. But I like this game. I like it a goddamn lot. And I'd rather not see it crippled in the space of a single night.

Krayz, you saucy minx, don't think I don't see you. Expect a reacharound out back.
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Looks like I've messed up pretty badly then. It's not been many times in my life that I've felt my heart sink. Doing badly on tests gets me pretty badly, but I think that knowing that I've screwed up so badly that now people who I care about hate me and that there's nothing I can do to fix it is just about the worst feeling I can have. For a while I was holding out the hope that others were in the wrong, but it looks like it's me. It makes me want to either give up or break down, completely. I'm sorry, for whatever it's worth. Anything I could say in my defense would only make me shabbier. It must seem like a complete lie if I say that I never meant to be an asshole, except for my recent post to Plank. I say I'm stupid because I don't think about what I'm saying online, and what effect it has on people, which is why I tend do go back and edit my posts loads of times. That much is true.

I don't know what to do next. Would it fix things if I were to leave, or does suggesting that make me even more of an asshole? I never thought I'd dig myself a grave this deep.
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Don't screw other people because we got in a fight. Stick around.
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Listen regardless of what people think of you or who you're an asshat to. I'm a pretty Canadian guy and I know an apology when I see one.

You're clear in my books man - just take a deep breath and realize that no one wants you to leave.
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Understood.
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Looks like I've messed up pretty badly then. It's not been many times in my life that I've felt my heart sink. Doing badly on tests gets me pretty badly, but I think that knowing that I've screwed up so badly that now people who I care about hate me and that there's nothing I can do to fix it is just about the worst feeling I can have. For a while I was holding out the hope that others were in the wrong, but it looks like it's me. It makes me want to either give up or break down, completely. I'm sorry, for whatever it's worth. Anything I could say in my defense would only make me shabbier. It must seem like a complete lie if I say that I never meant to be an asshole, except for my recent post to Plank. I say I'm stupid because I don't think about what I'm saying online, and what effect it has on people, which is why I tend do go back and edit my posts loads of times. That much is true.

I don't know what to do next. Would it fix things if I were to leave, or does suggesting that make me even more of an asshole? I never thought I'd dig myself a grave this deep.


No one's asking you to leave. If anything, your departure would be the final nail in the coffin; games rarely survive that power vacuum. Nor did anyone say anything with the intent to make you leave. I can't speak for Write, but I think he spoke up for the same reason I did; we saw the stakes get too high too imminently, and weren't about to leave Plank out in the cold.

When someone fucks up, they sometimes need to be shown that they fucked up. You were.

So try and learn from that as we all move on.
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So in further news it's about midnight for me...

Y'all got two weeks and it's been awhile since contests so you better give me some good writing to feast on.

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So in further news it's about midnight for me...

Y'all got two weeks and it's been awhile since contests so you better give me some good writing to feast on.


I thought the deadline was today for a single second and I head-desked.

Dammit Write don't scare me like that.
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@Krayzikk

I refuse to give up scaring you.

AND IN OTHER NEWS

I have a very special contest planned once this one ends so make sure to stay tuned for that~
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Looks like I've messed up pretty badly then. It's not been many times in my life that I've felt my heart sink. Doing badly on tests gets me pretty badly, but I think that knowing that I've screwed up so badly that now people who I care about hate me and that there's nothing I can do to fix it is just about the worst feeling I can have. For a while I was holding out the hope that others were in the wrong, but it looks like it's me. It makes me want to either give up or break down, completely. I'm sorry, for whatever it's worth. Anything I could say in my defense would only make me shabbier. It must seem like a complete lie if I say that I never meant to be an asshole, except for my recent post to Plank. I say I'm stupid because I don't think about what I'm saying online, and what effect it has on people, which is why I tend do go back and edit my posts loads of times. That much is true.

I don't know what to do next. Would it fix things if I were to leave, or does suggesting that make me even more of an asshole? I never thought I'd dig myself a grave this deep.


Look man, I don't think anyone honestly wishes for you to leave. Nor do I think most people believe you are an absolutely terrible GM. I mean the game has survived this long. I think the real issue here often stems from your tendency to jump to 'extremes' for lack of a better term. That is to say you often seem to frame things in binaries and react to what you perceive as the 'popular' opinion. A good example was the recent discussion on deadlines where you flip-flopped between two extremes until the rest of us were able to point out there is no need for an exclusive-or approach to how things are handled regarding time skips and what not. This creates the perception of that knee-jerk reaction that Plank mentioned.

When someone questions something you have a bad habit of jumping to neatest extreme you see. In this case that was the disbandment of a senior team. I get part of the appeal is you might view it as the cleanest approach, but to others it comes off as really left field and leaves them wishing they never brought up their complaint in the first place. This isn't healthy for a game and it's what has fostered some of the ill will others have. Not to mention your tone can often read as a passive-aggressive attack.

But hey, I'm not here to enumerate your faults, just to explain the biggest issues I've seen and potentially offer some advice on how to help.

So with regards to the extreme, left field decisions, I feel the first step is to start looking at this game as on more of spectrum than just two options. As a text based game there's always a slew of options available to you, but even if you can't always see them there's a relatively easy solution: Always ask the affected players before making any sort of major decision. And more importantly ask for their input. Don't just disband a team that you think isn't doing anything, bring up your concerns and get the players to help you reach a decision. Not only does it help you make decisions, it typically leads to better decisions everyone is satisfied with. Plus it helps stave off situations of favoritism because everyone gets an input not just the one with the concerns.

Look, I've been playing these games for a scarily long amount of time when I really think about it, and many of the best GMs I've played under were people who would always let others into the loop for major decisions. Obviously I don't mean plot necessarily, in fact keeping twists secret is kind of important, but anything that would directly affect the players in a way they couldn't control should never come out of left field. The quickest way to make people, not just players, angry is when something happens which they can't find the reason behind. As long as you make sure to keep the line of communication open and always allow players to give direct input for things involving their characters. People respect a GM whose actions are fair and make sense.

So like Plank and Krayzikk and Write all said, take this entire ordeal as an opportunity to grow as a person and a GM. Listen to your players and let them give input when you or someone else has concerns about their characters. Leaving won't solve anything, that's just stepping off the trail, what helps is simply find the right way forward. People really do care about this game, and finding a way to grow is the ideal outcome.

And really man, don't be afraid to simply ask, before making any decision of any kind, "What do you guys think we should do?" or "How can I do better?"

It's collaborative writing space after all, no need to be judge, jury and executioner.

Anyhow that's just my overly long 2 cents which has probably been rendered moot by some ninja'ed post I did not forsee.
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Me when I get back to the RP after work and discover that a whole bunch of drama happened:



So in further news it's about midnight for me...

Y'all got two weeks and it's been awhile since contests so you better give me some good writing to feast on.


I'm still working on my entry. I started it like a week ago and after finishing an interaction between Robert and another character I haven't added anything since due to two things: Overwatch and an early mid-life crisis. And to top it off, I'm going to summer school tomorrow because I need more units if I want to graduate college in 4 years. So basically this is me right now:

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Still have no idea what to write, or if I even will.

Srry bby
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Lighter note, I came across an old Amy thing from last Christmas.

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</3 (but you still got two weeks!)
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Aw did I miss all the fun? Been busy cloning my hard drive to a solid state drive
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Lighter note, I came across an old Amy thing from last Christmas.



That was actually kind of adorable. Too bad it's June now, if it was Christmas I could see someone doing a contest where everyone had to write what their character would get for everyone else's character.
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Damn. Sorry to hear that man. Could I transfer you? JCL (@Suku, @herecomesthesnow.@sho minazuki) are at least kind of active.

EDIT: The 'kind of active' was a joke, JCL. You have my gratitude for your continued presence.


I always lurk overhead out of sight.

So we're getting a new team member?
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@Sho Minazuki

Hey, yeah I'm in the skype group, have been for the past month and a half or so. We talk with the rest of the team quite a bit.

I'm joining your team as discussed more than a little - and was also in the OOC less than a page over.
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