[quote=@Vec] [@Muttonhawk]yeah, i just saw it on our news here. They showed that the cops there strapped a boy naked on a chair and left him there for hours amongst other things. This age we're in. It's pretty fucking spooky man... [/quote] You think that's bad, you should see the atrocious state of our immigration detention centres. It's a complex issue, but parliament has treated it like a political football for so long that they made the most half-arsed effort to deal with it for many years now. It's shameful, to be sure.