[quote=@Willy Vereb] Probably the lat one. Each player can decide how they want this. I know that my civ will be oblivious to everyone else in the beginning. I also know that if Ophidian still plays his and Keyguy's communists would be at each other's throats from the beginning. [/quote] I don't think Ophidian's coming back. He seemed pretty final this time. :/