[quote=@Double Capybara] I think one thing that has been bothering me since the BB's post on magic is that most of the magic is currently without god. The Adversary's occult for example, how does it work now that the horny underland dude is no longer there? Furthermore, there are other magiks being constantly created, and it will not stop as we move forward... Idk, I'm just a bit confused about it. [/quote] I think Occult can work totally fine without the Adversary since he added it to the Codex in the beginning of the RP. It's everywhere; Occult magic is a part pf the universe itself. Other forms of magic made now would probably be weaker in some way or at least less encompassing, and they might fail if the creator or source of power vanished. That's just my take on it.