Alrighto. I think my questions have been answered, thanks minna-san.

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Other forms of magic made now would probably be weaker in some way or at least less encompassing, and they might fail if the creator or source of power vanished.

That's just my take on it.
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One thing I notice in these new forms of Magic is that they are usually derivative from other primal energies.

Amartia's Alchemy seems to be just Logos's power in a stone. And the Shamanism I have been building up is basically just humans dreams mixing with animal dreams. 

Though once I get into song magic (by turn 56 at this rate) I will need to go for the ritualistic and occultic forces, as there is no base in Dreams alone that justify the creation of such thing.

Elementalist magic (not to be confused with elementals) and Destruction magic is Astartian in nature right?