[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] Creationism is the false equivication of science and religous claims, you should be angry at carson for that, not me.... Are you sure you know what creationism is? It seems like a lot of you in this thread seems to be using it interchangably with religion. When the two are actually seperate. And agressively ignorant is an adjective not an ad homenim. If that triggers you I dont know what to tell ya, drink some ice water maybe. [/quote] Creationism is very much related to religion and goes hand-in-hand with it. Not everyone who is religious is a creationist, but everyone who is a creationist is religious. Attacking someone on their opinion of creationism is attacking them on their religion. Now I'm all for attacking people for their religion but for people who aren't it would be hypocritical to insult another based upon their belief in creationism. At the end of the day, I would bet Sleepy Ben is smarter than any one of us in this conversation due in part to a combination of his years of wisdom, experience, and learning. If you think he's stupid because he's a devout Christian then you have to first realize that you're below the bar you're about to set.