[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] I'm sorry this sort of logic just does not work OH MY GOD how do you know the Romans existed, or the ancient Egyptians existed or that the american civil war happened...were you there? No. BUT we have evidence that allows us to see the facts of things that came before us, if science was only based on what happened what during our lifetimes then there would be no need to record anything. The world is not 6000 years old, that is a FACT, its not an opinion. You dont have to have been there to know that. I can provide plenty of sources on the history and age of the earth if you need citations but I'm pretty sure you already know all this. I'm pretty sure you know the earth revolves around the sun even though you havent been in space. You cant just paint everything as a subjective opinion. Otherwise everyone. just refute things left and right. I'll keep an open mind to actual subjective things, not falsehoods and facts. Is it your opinion that america was colonised by europeans? If so where you there to see it happen? [/quote] we know these things happen because there is physical evidence - pyramids, crumbling greek arenas, etcetera but how the fuck are you supposed to get physical evidence of a snake forcing a woman to bite into an apple? i'm just saying there are some times where you can't go "i believe that this didn't happen, therefore it didn't happen".