[quote=@The Spectre] I don't understand people who still believe that Hillary will still win. She conceded to Trump because she realized that there was no way for her to win this election. And since Trump won, he's getting the help, advice, and tools to run for the President of the United States. The Electoral College won't be voting against Trump at the last minute and shove important information into Clinton's head a month before Obama leaves the office. Also, he has 290 votes and it means that he's willing to recover if somebody plans on siding with Clinton. Protesting and signing petitions are pointless. We should be working to unite as one nation. The protests and this 'Calexit' is embarrassing us even more. [/quote] California does [i]not[/i] want to break away from the US at the same time we get a mercantilist President. That'd devastate the Californian economy beyond repair. And if the electoral college decided to act in bad faith... yeh, that's worse than anything Trump would ever do, since that would be nothing less than a move into [i]literal[/i] oligarchy. Dems really need to turn that energy into party reform. The guy who dressed down the DNC chair at their first post-defeat meeting got it right. Math is pretty straight forward, really. If Trump is good at the job, well, that's good. Improvement is what everyone universally wants. And if does end up being a shit President, the best way to defeat him is with a candidate people can actually get behind.