I never realized how many races d&d had [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_character_races_in_Dungeons_%26_Dragons[/url]. [@Banana] is the etc. on races a justification to take basically anything fantasy themed so long as it is not broken has hell, is intelligent(ish) and fits in a dungeon? or would you rather people stuck to the more standard races and your two mentioned ones?