[quote=@Asura]
If a trait associated with a Kekkei Genkai is not associated with a jutsu in canon, but appears to be an 'at-will' ability, should it be counted as an innate trait or made into a technique?
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That depends. You're talking about making weapons out of bones? I'd say make it into a custom jutsu, and if it causes you to go over the limit, then I'll see it through the fingers.

[quote=@Demous]
[@Buddha] You make a good point with that but the thing is that uchiha are naturally gifted with ninjutsu and genjutsu. They usually also have fire or lightning natures. Both of which are good long range which the Hyuga aren't. Esentially it's a battle of who the better of the two actually is. Like much of naruto should have been. Not the mage anime/manga it became.
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Genjutsu is taken care of directly because Hyuga can see chakra and chakra paths and therefore can detect genjutsu. I think only the most powerful genjutsu's (aka anything Itachi pulled from his ass) couldn't be dispelled. Literally anything else was fair game. 

Ninjutsu.. I mean, besides the fact that Hyuga can see chakra buildup and thus can tell when someone is preparing ninjutsu, they also can dispel it more or less by fucking around with the chakra. 

Furthermore, the point I'm making here is that the Uchiha are not some badass clan of shinobi. Not everyone is Madara, Sasuke or god forbid Itachi. Most Uchiha shinobi (which only made up a small part of the clan) never even awaken their sharingan, let alone unlock two tomoe. It just seems like every Uchiha will obtain an EMS or something because Itachi killed the whole clan, making Itachi, Madara and Sasuke the only survivors. Coincidentally they are all 'geniuses'. So it seems like the Uchiha clan are OP. In reality, Kishimoto just made it look like they were.

A standard, average Uchiha wouldn't be anywhere as close to powerful as any of those three.

Hyuga have wind chakra, though, and they use it fairly often.

[quote=@LokiLeo789]
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The Hyuga also have Chakra natures, they just chose not to use them. Not to mention the fact that they can be easily blocked. In fact, a Hyuga like Neji could take a chunk out of the Sususan'o and dispel Amatrasu with the Gentle Fist. Think the writer chose not to explore that interaction.
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On the other hand, Neji was a genius and thus was more capable of matching Sasuke, Madara, Obito or Itachi. If we look at Hinata, who isn't a genius, it'd be a lot more iffy if she could do any of that. :lol

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Regardless, thanks for keeping the discussion civil.

Any comparison that is made is made by characters that were geniuses. Shisui? Genius. Itachi? Genius. Sasuke? Emo, but genius (it was claimed he was anyway). Madara? Literal shinobi god. By that definition alone we can already assume the comparisons are heavily biased.