[quote=@Vilageidiotx] It's two sides pointing at each other and saying "Look how insane they are! Those guys are nuts!" while the people in the middle are trying to reconcile that information without feeling too put on. [/quote] While I'm not American, that's always the vibe I got from the state your (you presumably are) politics're in. It's one of he reasons why anytime some sort of discussion comes up about 'are you republic or democratic' or 'are you conservative or liberal', I'm never able to really go into it because I see both sides as flawed and the system fundamentally broken. I'm too much of a reconstructionist/deconstructionist in my philosophical analysis to be able to ever 'follow a side' in a situation -- I only follow my own terms. This is probably more serious of a discussion than was the point of the thread though, but, eh, I'm not gonna hold it against myself for spamming in a shitposting thread. Anyway, just woke up, so I'm gonna get something to eat.