[quote=@Jhakor] [@Weird Tales] well typically in the books vermin are always evil. I can think of one ferret (son of a warlord) in the books who was found as a baby and raised at the abbey that struggled between the good/evil. Which vermin did you have in mind? As far as the larger creatures go (birds,snakes, foxes) there are usually only one of them present at a time as they are usually main characters. [/quote] I was thinking about a rat. I've read a lot of Redwall fanfiction where vermin are good, but their culture makes it hard for them to be good.