Counter statistics include the fact that the Bronze Age began in Europe before 2000 B.C.E., over a thousand years before those things that silly Kho would cite in a misguided attempt to make me look the fool. ( ;p Kho you're dirty) And remember that not all parts of Galbar are even in the Bronze Age yet. Even if we cut some slack and say that Galbar is equivalent to maybe Earth around 1000 B.C.E., Wikipedia says that the world's largest city at the time was Thebes in Egypt, which was home to 50,000. Having two random clans of nomadic pastoralists fielding armies larger than Vetros' entire population strikes me as utterly absurd. By no means do I want this to be like last RP where there are 10,000 people in the entire world, but come on guys...I think there's a more reasonable middle ground that can be found by roughly following historical population sizes. Edit: I'll take the liberty of posting the pertinent lines that sparked this debate between Kho and I. [hider] 'How many?' Shaqmar asked Yoditi as he galloped back to him. 'Many, my [i]Qa'id[/i]. More than thirty thousand,' the veteran responded. Shaqmar's war party had taken some significant losses as they advanced. While he had forty thousand warriors with him when he marched forth, which had been bolstered by the ten thousand Tagham to [b]fifty thousand[/b], he now had just over thirty-nine thousand warriors.[/hider]