[quote=@Muttonhawk] Also, very nice idea for how to use Toun's freebie. [/quote] There's more about that incoming! It just got a little butchered when I split the post. Still thinking of ways to use Aihtiraq's gift. [quote=@Cyclone] Zorash'e and her speech portray it well. Though I haven't canonized Vetruvians having djinn willingly bind to them it's a nice addition. Just felt like sharing in case you were interested in having Whisper encounter the ogres at any point or explore the difference if Zotash'e ever tries to branch out. There's probably at least a few human shamans that try to d it the ogre way. [/quote] shhhhhh I'm tired and I took a shot in the dark I wasn't planning on Whisper going so far, but it's possible. I feel like ogres would annoy her terribly. Zotash'e, though! Now there's an idea.