[quote=@SleepingSilence] [@Buddha] That's fair enough, that verse calling out to other rappers was an important thing to his career. And maybe that helped give him some hype, in a similar way Hopsin doing a similar thing garnered him a bunch of popularity. The reason I say metal is the most expansive because it has tons of genres and influences many more genres on top of that. And has more concept albums that just push the bounds of "a collection of songs" that a lot of albums are. But I will say, I probably listen to as much rap as I do metal now...[/quote] I mean that really just depends. I'm not a big fan of Hopsin personally because he's just doing the same shtick over and over ('oh these new rappers suck, blabla, look how deep I am'). He's just a rapper that poses as something else, something different, to get that attention. Which is a good business move but after the first few tracks where he repeated that shtick over and over, it just got boring to me. [quote=@SleepingSilence]As much as I'd freaking love a rap equivalent of Diablo Swing Orchestra or Haggard or Eluveitie, I don't think it exists. :c[/quote] Err, can't think of anything right away. I know there's probably 'rap groups' that do something like that but I wouldn't really know who that is specifically. [quote=@SleepingSilence]Both genres honestly have a lot of similarities at least in public perception. They do probably have the most ways to vocalize the lyrics at hand. Metal incorporating all genres for vocalists and rap having a bunch of different flow methods and such. Often mostly criticized by people unaware of the genre, media saying it has connections to bad actions when most the music is harmless. When people claim to listen to everything, put on "the talky noise" "or the screaming" and suddenly want you to turn it off. Also rap metal is always a glorious guilty pleasure. Also MF Doom is fun. :3[/quote] I think metal is just very limited by the instruments. There's not a lot of options available, like yeah you got these different riffs and shit and yeah there's a lot of things you can do with that, [i]but[/i] in the end, you will find a lot of songs have a similar structure. With rap I feel that's less the case. Or less often perhaps.