[quote=@Garattee]
[@NuttsnBolts] I didnt say I want the thread locked, Im just pointing put the things that would make it happen. This was actually  a rather good thread.

But I take it you disagree?
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this thread was doomed from the start tbh. like i said previously, asking someone to try and convey their own personal opinion on the appeal of something as subjective or as fact is bound to lead to debates and arguments eventually.