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It'd be pretty damn epic, yeah, and a potentially pretty long fight too, if Masamune figures out Kiyohime's weakness being how Berserkers use up alot of prana. Then at that point, Masamune would try and avoid her attacks through the use of his Agility, along with possibly his luck. Of course, if they're away from their Masters, this strategy plays off Archer's Independant Action, and would mean he'd have to play fully evasive in order to use the least amount of mana.

Of course, to this end, if Kiyohime gets one good hit on Archer, it'd be over for him, seeing as using this strategy would mean to avoid activating Hide of the Dragon.
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It'd be pretty damn epic, yeah, and a potentially pretty long fight too, if Masamune figures out Kiyohime's weakness being how Berserkers use up alot of prana. Then at that point, Masamune would try and avoid her attacks through the use of his Agility, along with possibly his luck. Of course, if they're away from their Masters, this strategy plays off Archer's Independant Action, and would mean he'd have to play fully evasive in order to use the least amount of mana.

Of course, to this end, if Kiyohime gets one good hit on Archer, it'd be over for him, seeing as using this strategy would mean to avoid activating Hide of the Dragon.


Considering the range of Kiyohimes Breath and her flight she is 'faster' in some regard due to have no friction of her feet. Combine that with the fact shes a living artillery cannon due to her dragon breath. Luck would play a huge factor. Lucky for Masumune, Kyohime has terrible luck. Though Kyohime by herself is strong but its when her skill 'Flame-Coloured Kiss' Comes into play that you should get scared.

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@Cu ChulainnHe's a bit strong but if you agree to reduce his damage reduction to 50% I'll accept him. It's getting dangerously close to Siegfried level of defense otherwise.

Also considering demon archer's (Oda) whole shtick is using volleys of gun fire at divine entities I'm not sure how correct that description is for his first phantasm.
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I actually think his 70% defense with the armor is justifiable for these two reasons

1. It's designed to be a quick burst sort of Noble Phantasm, seeing as it used a huge amount of mana to keep up. Siegfried's is continuously on.
2. It still isn't complete negation, and it doesn't work exactly like Siegfried's armor, since he still takes some damage from the attacks it can defend, and he still takes the full damage from attacks of A rank or more, his Endurance nonwithstanding.

I can bring it down to 50%, would it also be fair to say it doesn't use a huge amount of prana to maintain? It still uses a lot of prana, if so, just not a huge amount.

Also, the first part of the Noble Phantasm is just comparing Masamune to the likes of Nobunaga historically that they both liked using firearms. The second paragraph is what actually explains its effect.
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I actually think his 70% defense with the armor is justifiable for these two reasons

1. It's designed to be a quick burst sort of Noble Phantasm, seeing as it used a huge amount of mana to keep up. Siegfried's is continuously on.
2. It still isn't complete negation, and it doesn't work exactly like Siegfried's armor, since he still takes some damage from the attacks it can defend, and he still takes the full damage from attacks of A rank or more, his Endurance nonwithstanding.

I can bring it down to 50%, would it also be fair to say it doesn't use a huge amount of prana to maintain? It still uses a lot of prana, if so, just not a huge amount.

Also, the first part of the Noble Phantasm is just comparing Masamune to the likes of Nobunaga historically that they both liked using firearms. The second paragraph is what actually explains its effect.


problem is, is that it is making them a dragon. Thats gonna require redonk mana either way. As it involves manifesting something from the age of gods. In this case the dragon reactor.
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@Cu ChulainnIt gives him a ridiculous stat boost and some pretty solid skills. I believe moving it down to 50 is justified with it as it is. As I told Charak the Fuyuki Grail isn't even capable of bringing in Japanese heroes the only reason I'm considering this as it is is because it's not Oda levels of ridiculousness, and because I need to get this roleplay moving along.
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I actually think his 70% defense with the armor is justifiable for these two reasons

1. It's designed to be a quick burst sort of Noble Phantasm, seeing as it used a huge amount of mana to keep up. Siegfried's is continuously on.
2. It still isn't complete negation, and it doesn't work exactly like Siegfried's armor, since he still takes some damage from the attacks it can defend, and he still takes the full damage from attacks of A rank or more, his Endurance nonwithstanding.

I can bring it down to 50%, would it also be fair to say it doesn't use a huge amount of prana to maintain? It still uses a lot of prana, if so, just not a huge amount.

Also, the first part of the Noble Phantasm is just comparing Masamune to the likes of Nobunaga historically that they both liked using firearms. The second paragraph is what actually explains its effect.


@Cu ChulainnIt gives him a ridiculous stat boost and some pretty solid skills. I believe moving it down to 50 is justified with it as it is. As I told Charak the Fuyuki Grail isn't even capable of bringing in Japanese heroes the only reason I'm considering this as it is is because it's not Oda levels of ridiculousness, and because I need to get this roleplay moving along.


To be honest, a 50% reduction is still a large amount combined with endurance the armor allows for an effective defensive strat as he gets a plus modifer due to his location. Secondly, Its Masumune does he really need all that defense, surely a military genius would know when it's a terrible idea to get close. Thirdly, The mana of manifesting things from the ages of gods (such as the dragon reactor) or the mana expedited through using the breath of the dragon isn't something that can be reduced without hampering the effects of the magic IE the breath lowers in rank or the stat buffs are reduced. Fourthly he is the archer class, defense shouldn't be his strong point.
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For the sake of balancing and to add better variety, I'll probably go with Dullahan after all.

For his execution, I figured a few things to balance it. One is to lower the check to a standard LCK check, instead of a high one. The target cannot be interfered with, whether it's an ally or enemy, which makes allied servents pinning the target down impossible. While this applies to the target, this doesn't apply to Rider himself, and allies of the target can just throw Rider off from using this Phantasm. Lastly, if the target were to survive the attack with the LCK check or something similar, they are immune to it until the next night. This is mostly to balance the execution to not being spammed, while also keeping the theme appropriately

I honestly still believe Dullahan's other weaknesses counteract his strong Noble Phantasm to some degree. And I'm sure it goes without saying that he'd be instantly identifiable the moment he starts using his head, which is almost neccessary for him to act, anyway. Despite there being multiple versions of the legend, the fear of gold is almost universal.

As far as interactions go, I've had a few silent characters that were met with success. I actually enjoy the aspect of having a character unable to truly speak, as it gives myself as a writer more of a challenge to develop my character welll.
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For the sake of balancing and to add better variety, I'll probably go with Dullahan after all.

For his execution, I figured a few things to balance it. One is to lower the check to a standard LCK check, instead of a high one. The target cannot be interfered with, whether it's an ally or enemy, which makes allied servents pinning the target down impossible. While this applies to the target, this doesn't apply to Rider himself, and allies of the target can just throw Rider off from using this Phantasm. Lastly, if the target were to survive the attack with the LCK check or something similar, they are immune to it until the next night. This is mostly to balance the execution to not being spammed, while also keeping the theme appropriately

I honestly still believe Dullahan's other weaknesses counteract his strong Noble Phantasm to some degree. And I'm sure it goes without saying that he'd be instantly identifiable the moment he starts using his head, which is almost neccessary for him to act, anyway. Despite there being multiple versions of the legend, the fear of gold is almost universal.

As far as interactions go, I've had a few silent characters that were met with success. I actually enjoy the aspect of having a character unable to truly speak, as it gives myself as a writer more of a challenge to develop my character welll.


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So, may I ask if we are going to start with 4 people and then let people come in over time. Or wait till we fill out the cast more?
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@Cu ChulainnAlright then I'll accept Rider.
@1Charak2I'm assuming Eror is out of this roleplay. He has been on since he last appearance and hasn't said anything since. I'm not sure about the others. I can try bumping up the interest check one more time.

However I can start it with four people and then fill in the cast later, or replace them with bots.
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Have you already tried PMing Er0r? Anyway, I'm in class at the moment. I'll add Rider with the mentioned revisions to the character tab after I finish
my work. As for my Magus, I just have to complete his sheet and he'll be up as well
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If you'd like, perhaps Orazio can serve as Rider's master? While he is summoned best through compatibility, we can also write it off as Rider being summonable through a catalyst in the form of an idol of Crom Dubh, although that along with the lack of compatibility will make Rider weaker overall, which I'm fine with, seeing as it would be an interesting challenge.

Trust me when I say this, I tried finding a compatible servant for the OG, and while I did find a good Rider (Aladdin), balancing his djinn Noble Phantasm was a bit difficult to pull off without extensive thought, and Aladdin just wouldn't feel the same without it, so I just went with Dullahan, instead.

EDIT: While I am asking if you are interested in partnering up with my Rider, if not, that would be fine, seeing as the magus I am making will be very compatible with Rider if I don't find another master he could work with
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@Cu ChulainnI have not however I have mentioned him on here, and directly referred to him multiple times.
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If you'd like, perhaps Orazio can serve as Rider's master? While he is summoned best through compatibility, we can also write it off as Rider being summonable through a catalyst in the form of an idol of Crom Dubh, although that along with the lack of compatibility will make Rider weaker overall, which I'm fine with, seeing as it would be an interesting challenge.

Trust me when I say this, I tried finding a compatible servant for the OG, and while I did find a good Rider (Aladdin), balancing his djinn Noble Phantasm was a bit difficult to pull off without extensive thought, and Aladdin just wouldn't feel the same without it, so I just went with Dullahan, instead.

EDIT: While I am asking if you are interested in partnering up with my Rider, if not, that would be fine, seeing as the magus I am making will be very compatible with Rider if I don't find another master he could work with


I'd have no problem pairing Orazio with Rider. However, if we did that, it would mean that we'd also have to pair whatever Master character you end up making with Assassin, since there are no other Masters up for grabs currently (unless we get more people). If you're 100% fine making that committment, I'd say let's do this. Otherwise, I'd have no complaints pairing Orazio with Assassin.
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I'll be making the IC when I have everyone's details all sorted out. I really wish we had more people but it is what it is.
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A kid with no reasons to hate anyone gets given a being of resentment whoms whole purpose is to kill people. This surely sounds like a sitcom.

"Kid, Meet a Grim Reaper."

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So an angry woman, a saint, a dragon, and a grim reaper walk into a bar...
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So an angry woman, a saint, a dragon, and a grim reaper walk into a bar...


Lemme rephrase that.

So an angry woman, a saint, a dragon, and a grim reaper walk into a Church...
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@1Charak2Technically they're going to be waiting outside the church in the IC.
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@1Charak2Technically they're going to be waiting outside the church in the IC.


Technically they are still on church grounds but semantics aside. I've got a question I'll pm you.
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