[quote=@SleepingSilence] [hider=Says a bad word in caption?] [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1rIDmDWSms[/youtube] [/hider] This is why I take none of this political chatter remotely seriously. :D If you did literally any research at all, you'd know what kind of man this dude was. But lul meme. Not like I posted a reddit of someone going into further detail. ([i]Though he did defend the person,[/i] [i]in saying as likely as true a statement or paraphase it might have been, it also doesn't shine a pure negative light.) [/i]Which astounds me, but it's reddit a place proven to have down voting bots, used by the administers themselves. And nor will I bother posting the six hundred other people that have been caught with true intentions of pandering... [/quote] I'm not going to deny LBJ was a casual racist, but the fact of the matter is actually digging into the quote's history you don't come up with much credit behind it. You get one guy who said LBJ said it to some governors, and since they weren't identified it's difficult to corroborate the story the Johnson ever made the quip. The position that Johnson was more afraid of him having given the entire south over to the Republican Party has more weight than the loose allegory that he said he'd get niggers voting Democrat for two-hundred years. Meeting notes during the Johnson era and minutes from cabinet meetings at the time of his ascendancy also supports the notion that he wasn't into it for cold political maneuvering and was as into it as his predecessor was and certainly fought to get it through. And as shrewd a political navigator as Lyndon Johnson was, he would have sensed that passing civil rights legislation would alienate many of the white voters in the South who were the Vanguard of the Old Party (yes, believe or not: party ideology does shift). [quote=@mdk] [url=http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/business/james-powers/2017/04/07/nyse-president-unquestionably-credits-trump-economic]Well don't take my word for it.[/url] I can pull up half a dozen more if you like, or we can chuckle about how just a few months ago y'all were celebrating Obama pulling us out of the recession for much paltrier gains. [/quote] Emotional spirits, that is all. Stock Market trends rely on the outlook of bankers in the system and investment bureaus who think something will turn out good and in the spirit of positive or negative feelings will invest likewise and kick off a trend. The Stock Market isn't a good indicator of on-the-ground progress in jobs creation, national output, and other more physical measures of how the nation is doing from a economic point of view. It may or will keep highscores going for a while as spirits are up, but should no returns be made stock values will inevitably dip as the honey moon spirit is lost. It doesn't indicate that there's been an immediate shift in the physical productive economy at, and is like judging a person as being wealthy or not by asking him if he's in a glass half-full or glass half-empty mood. The truth of the matter is that corporate policy moves at a tectonic pace like government, and the only effective and immediate effect Trump has on the job market is giving the green-light to hire in more people in government jobs. But as it stands Congress does and always has controlled the purse strings so Trump can't actively hire on a few thousand more people into federal jobs without first giving the appropriate resources from Congress, he has to otherwise cut in proportion elsewhere. But, you know, if you don't actually want to chase down other sources and want self confirming information at a finger-click: fine by me. But really, stopping to first consider he wasn't so much as president until the 20th of January then simply by that he's still falling short, using [url=https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth]Bureau of Labor Statistic reports[/url]. There's also the sticky situation that the previous two months figures aren't totally final and are still an estimation until they finalize those for this month's mid-month review of jobs added, so the number so far can change drastically. We also have to stop and consider that the shit he's taking credit for happened well before he took office. The Ford job creation announcement came at the end of 2015 deal made with the UAW, not with Trump. [url=https://uaw.org/app/uploads/2015/11/reducedFINAL-FORD-HOURLY-11-9-15-1229p-FINAL-with-numbers-p24-headings-page-6-charts-p25.pdf]Here's the transcript[/url]. [url=https://uaw.org/fordhighlighter/]Full scoop here[/url]. The merger of Charter with Time Warner Cable will add 20,000 jobs; which I recall right Trump took some credit for. However, this is a deal that goes back as far as 2015 with the [url=http://www.wgrz.com/money/business/charter-would-seek-to-add-20000-us-jobs-after-time-warner-merger/154479445]final announcement made well before the election wrapped up in 2016[/url]. And the 45,000+ jobs creation program by Exxon was started in 2013, [url=http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ceraweek-exxon-idUSKBN16D2G6]Reuters reports[/url]. An Intel deal to build a [url=https://newsroom.intel.com/news-releases/intel-to-invest-more-than-5-billion-to-build-new-factory-in-arizona/]new factory in Arizona was initiated in 2011[/url]. GM job creation announcements make no mention of Trump, [url=http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2017/jan/0117-investment.html]and comes following action taken by the company in 2016 and 2009[/url]. The source you gave doesn't even touch on or acknowledge the glacial pace at which things move and mostly settles itself on stock market feels with fifty CEOs with no conclusive plan revealed to actually physically do anything. If we're going to credit Trump for job creation it'd be years down the line, since so often development plans and action on the corporate front are rarely ever done in an instant and get dragged out over long periods. Everything Trump is trying to take credit for in this first semester of his first year was already decided on with or without him and is the part of post-recession momentum.