[quote=@Demon Shinobi] [@Prince of Seraphs]I think Matt was only like 16 or so before his death. So it might not work out if they were involved even if it weren't that cliche. Which like, on the one hand it is a bit cliche, but not quite as much as it could be. [/quote] That's not necessarily true, the OP didn't list an age for Matt and though it does say the year is around 2043 Matt's birth year was never mentioned in Batman Beyond, only that he's about nine years younger than Terry so conceivably he could be older. Though that is really up to [@Member 00492] and you are right it is pretty cliche. I think I've got enough twists and motivation in Gloria's past without having to add that to it.