[quote=@Andreyich]That doesn't matter. The country they invaded was also capitalist and the people there live better now under a government that at least pretends to be secular and such. Not to mention, the war in the middle east only went on to bring huge monetary losses even if nefarious ebil American Imperialist ambitions were behind it.[/quote] Funding Imperialism is bad, and I feel like it probably does matter. [quote=@Andreyich]We're not arguing about it's business practice but about business overall. Business puts these laws there in the first place, at most you can blame microsoft for violating laws that it - by extension - placed upon itself which is not a very smart thing to do.[/quote] You don't see anything wrong with the business making the rules for itself? [quote=@Andreyich]But art was commodified before the existence of money; people couldn't just make it on spare time, prehistoric artists would have someone bringing them their food in exchange for their works.[/quote] No, hunter-gatherers literally just did it in their free time. [quote=@Andreyich]It seems, that before the invention of capitalism it was already better than communism.[/quote] Considering it wasn't capitalism you aren't wrong. [quote=@Andreyich]Not to mention, that it is the choice of the artist to monetize their art. As such, you should blame the artists rather than capitalism. I for one wouldn't mind shooting a hipster making music on soundcloud, they are annoying fucks aren't they?[/quote] 🔥🔥🔥 [quote=@Andreyich]People don't suffer, they only do better by it. Communism was tried over and over (no matter how much you bitch and whine that it wasn't real communism) and it didn't work,[/quote] Who the hell cares what real communism is? The system we have now ISN'T working for everyone. Also again-- Catalonia. [quote=@Andreyich]stop trying to destroy stable society[/quote] Well this is a different issue entirely but lol no. [quote=@Andreyich]The environmental concern is also a kind of bullshit thing to bring up too since it's just there to make you look like the good guy freedom fighter against us ebil imperialists wanting to save the earth.[/quote] Oh, fuck off. I'm not even a communist, I should specify-- just an anti-capitalist, and fairly clearly an anti-statist and it's literally for this reason. Who the hell cares how anyone looks? Society, today, is based on expansion that's not sustainable, and not nearly enough people are living outside of the capitalist systems that encourage wasteful lifestyles in first world and western nations for it not to be a problem. [quote=@Andreyich]In truth, socialist Chile was razing and clearing forests and Vietnam has so much fucking smog that cars are all but banned there. Communist countries are always very backwards and still haven't even heard of alternative fuel sources. So once again, Capitalists are heroes and communists are the ones turning our planet to shit.[/quote] In a statist system no one can really be considered a hero-- and I think you know it's the sign of a weak argument when you try to oversimplify it like that. [quote=@Andreyich]We are not complicit in the crimes of the one percent, I know I'm not.[/quote] I mean, we are. If want to say you're not, fine. But our lives in one way or another, fuels their crimes. So I mean, you are, lmao. [quote=@Andreyich]I don't eat McDonald's and I eat mama's cutlets instead, I don't drink your filthy coca cola but make my own Kvass from shit I grow in my backyard and in a few vases. So once more, you're plain wrong and your argument continuously trips up over itself.[/quote] Sure. [quote=@SleepingSilence]Your points aren't really worth addressing, because it's clear there's no room for common ground or even intellectual honesty at this point.[/quote] Well, they are. But if you don't want to address them that's fine lmao. Let me address yours. [quote=@SleepingSilence]Well you're completely wrong and know jack,[/quote] Jeez, you sound like every subconscious thought I have in every waking moment. [quote=@SleepingSilence]and apparently can't even read like the other person that commented to me. :D I said she uses rocks and things she finds/makes. She doesn't use things you'd immediately assume is in most common jewelry...[/quote] Okay???? [quote=@SleepingSilence]And if taxes have fuck all to do with anything, why the hell do I have to answer that? Do you pay taxes?[/quote] Yes! I pay taxes and it sucks knowing you go to jail if you don't provide financial backing for wars of exploitation, among all the other illegal shit the state conducts. How do you change the system if you're a cog of it, just by working so you don't go hungry? [quote=@SleepingSilence]Yes, they are. A singer is a professional, it makes money. THEY DID BUILD THAT. And it doesn't exploit afghan children...[/quote] But the system they operate in does??????? [quote=@SleepingSilence]Contradiction levels off the charts.[/quote] Ah, focusing on semantics to win an internet argument eh? You might strike the killing blow to anarchists after all.