[quote=@Andreyich]
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Did I say I have one? I'm just saying that the Russians did influence the American elections, in some way. I mean, RT alone is proof of that. Maybe they didn't do it illicitly, maybe they did, but they did something; my point was that denying there was any involvement of Russians gives libtards ammunition. 
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I reject the notion that I must accept the vaguest of allegations in the absence of evidence in order to appease the Left. Show me [i]specific, documented wrongdoing[/i] and I will condemn it. Until then, [i]absolutely all of the Russia narrative is propaganda.[/i] That's not me being paranoid, that's how democratic politics (especially two-party politics) works -- it is all spin, all of it, all the time. Why are we talking about Russia instead of Saudi? Spin, and no other reason. Saudi's been "influencing" our elections, tangibly, directly, demonstrably, for decades -- and not just with memes, with hundreds of billions of actual real dollars. Why aren't we talking about that -- well, both parties are guilty as sin, so nobody can spin it to their favor. I mean Trump could, they were all in for Hilary, but the GOP itself takes their money all the time, so there's no calling-out. 

Well that's starting to ramble. My point is -- no. I'm not playing a game with loaded dice. "Russian interference" is a meaningless term and I assign it no value whatsoever. Not. Playing. Along. 

Speaking of actual demonstrable wrongdoing, wanna look into ineligible votes? Election fraud? No? [i]Then y'all can shut the fuck up about imaginary russians.[/i]