@Turboshitter

What is the youngest possible age someone at the Clocktower can have.

The youngest confirmed canon example is Gray at 15, but she's 15 at the start of the story and was recruited as Waver's apprentice earlier than that EDIT: 2 months earlier, actually

I'd guess something like 13 based on that.

@KawaiiKyouko Genghis is approved unless you have anything further you'd like to add or change. I'll add her to the character tab next chance I get.

@Grey Did you see my PM?

15 it is.

@KawaiiKyouko I just thought of this, but I think Rider's bow and arrow NP may need some minor adjustment, as the multiplication effect is predicated on what are strictly speaking human limitations i.e. multiplying every .1 seconds at a velocity of 100 m/s. The arrows won't multiply nearly as much if the projectile is traveling at speeds vastly greater than that, and as we've seen before, Servants tend to get a bit ridiculous when it comes to feats of superhuman strength and weapons mastery.

For example, EMIYA, who is a relatively weak Servant excluding Unlimited Blade Works, is capable of firing arrows at a target many, many kilometers away at speeds vastly exceeding that of sound. Granted, he can only fire accurately at those distances thanks to Clairvoyance, but we're more concerned with the arrow's kinetic energy and velocity here, since Khan's NP is basically a carpet bombing. Observe:



Archer's arrow took about 8 seconds to make all the way across at least half of Fuyuki, and his strength (thus draw weight) is only a measly D, which is vastly outstripped by Genghis here. At the speeds Genghis' arrows are likely to be traveling, their replication will be greatly nerfed if they can only double once every .1 seconds. Might I suggest making it so that they double based on distance, or by how many horses Khan has summoned?

@Turboshitter
EMIYA really isn't a "weak" Servant outside of UBW. I'd even go as far as to say that UBW is only really formidable as a tool for him when it comes to the actual projection rather than the outright activation of it. What you're showing there is one of his Broken Phantasms, which is pretty much his trumph card, so it's a pretty unfair comparison in that regard. For example, Arash has demonstrated he could break down Ozy's temple walls (equivalent to an A-Rank NP) with a barrage of 10 arrows.

Still, as a Rider Class Servant hailing from a land with quite the distance away, I would just recommend cutting it altogether. Class containers exist for a reason and this does enter Archer territory pretty heavily. The character is already rocking 2 other NPs, so I don't think it's too warranted.

Another question I have is why Tseneglegch is ranked at A. From what I can see there, it's not really comparable to things like Divine Beasts, which also makes me question the Riding A+. A master of "any horse" still isn't on the level of someone who can ride Phantasmal Species (which, judging from the description and A+ Rank, I would have to assume is the implication here since otherwise it'd have the standard A-Rank clause for Riding listing the exception).

@vFear
Since we're probably really close to starting, I honestly suggest you reconsider how Legacy of Gérard works. Right now it's pretty much equivalent to a Mystic Code without much formidable going for it. Some secondary effect upon hit or something would probably do it good (within reason).

@MeteorD

Mongolians are known for their horseback archery, and there are Riders who "break" the rules by, for example, spears and lances as weapon NPs. In some cases, like Achilles' own, aspects of their weapons are sealed. Normally his spear would be like Gae Buidhe and leave unhealable marks, but since he's a Rider and not a Lancer, this aspect is sealed

Perhaps @KawaiiKyouko could nerf their bow NP instead of completely remove it?

The rank of that Noble Phantasm probably means that it's A Rank Mental Interference instead of an A Rank Mount.

Also CS is prob gonna be delayed since I'm still in talks with Turbo about things.

@MeteorD Yes, but Caladbolg II being used as a Broken Phantasm has little to do with the arrow's initial velocity, only its explosion upon impact, and Archer pelted Bahzahkah with a lot of normal arrows from that distance as well, meaning Caladbolg II's speed was not a product of it being a Broken Phantasm, nor was it an isolated incident.

@Grey@vancexentan@Shadow Daedalus@1Charak2@KawaiiKyouko@vFear@Cu Chulainn@WanderingSpirit

Alright guys! I've decided to delay the IC until tomorrow/later this evening, since it sounds like everyone is close to being done. Is everyone ready for this RP to start?

@Turboshitter I feel left out ;;

But I'm excited all the same ^^ XD

@Turboshitter As ready as i'll ever be

@Turboshitter I feel left out ;;

But I'm excited all the same ^^ XD

I knew there was a name I forgot! Sorry! >.<

@Grey@vancexentan@Shadow Daedalus@1Charak2@KawaiiKyouko@vFear@Cu Chulainn@WanderingSpirit

Alright guys! I've decided to delay the IC until tomorrow/later this evening, since it sounds like everyone is close to being done. Is everyone ready for this RP to start?

AY.

@Turboshitter Fine! Be that way! I dont need you anyway!

@Turboshitter Ready for that dank IC. I just need to pair Archer up with one of the WIP masters.

I'm as ever. I have a few plans for Mordred, and Leon but that all depends on what I am allowed to get away with given the context of the roleplay. I intend to base my arc around Leon's family and his family's associates. If need be I can bring in either parent of Leon, or his grandpa who, while not combat ready, was basically Lupin the 3rd.

@Turboshitter

The maximum range of the arrows is 150m as mentioned, which by all means is typical for longbowmen. In other words, if she fires at that range, she'll have 15 multiplications at that speed, which means 32k arrows at the very maximum which is a good estimate of the horde's full force. The arrow velocity is actually calculated to be slower than modern compound bows (they are a little faster), so all in all it's just a regular bow that fires at regular lengths at ordinary speeds but with a multiplication addon, really. If you really want me to nerf it, I guess I could make it every 0,15 second instead, which will turn into seven multiplications at max range, which hits ~above 250 arrows. I dunno, it's really hard to adjust slightly to make it either near useless (the benefit of 250 inaccurate arrows at long range doesn't make up for it being a completely ordinary bow in short ranges, really) or completely broken (just making the arrows fly slower/cutting the multiplication to 0,9 alone). I dunno.

@Turboshitter

The maximum range of the arrows is 150m as mentioned, which by all means is typical for longbowmen. In other words, if she fires at that range, she'll have 15 multiplications at that speed, which means 32k arrows at the very maximum which is a good estimate of the horde's full force. The arrow velocity is actually calculated to be slower than modern compound bows (they are a little faster), so all in all it's just a regular bow that fires at regular lengths at ordinary speeds but with a multiplication addon, really. If you really want me to nerf it, I guess I could make it every 0,15 second instead, which will turn into seven multiplications at max range, which hits ~above 250 arrows. I dunno, it's really hard to adjust slightly to make it either near useless (the benefit of 250 inaccurate arrows at long range doesn't make up for it being a completely ordinary bow in short ranges, really) or completely broken (just making the arrows fly slower/cutting the multiplication to 0,9 alone). I dunno.

I don't want you to nerf it, I want you to buff it xD

Like I said, this all comes down to Servants being way stronger than humans are. A human archer would only be able to fire arrows at a range of 150m and a speed of 100 m/s, but a Servant is capable of so, so much more than that. Given that even the weakest Servants are superior to normal humans by a factor of x10 in every conceivable category, it'd be incredibly unfair to Genghis to base the power of her NP off of what a human archer can do.

Therefore, I propose either altering the multiplication rate so that the same number of arrows would be produced if the arrows traveled at far greater speeds than they do now, or make it so that the number of arrows she fires are equal to the number of horses she has summoned (if you want to limit the maximum number of arrows to the size of her army).

@Grey@WanderingSpirit@1Charak2 Do you think you'll have your Masters ready in the next couple of hours?

@Grey@WanderingSpirit@1Charak2 Do you think you'll have your Masters ready in the next couple of hours?

Just gonna finish personality and the History shouldn't be too hard to spew out.



*Then I can go paint my Adeptus Mechanicus models*