[quote=@Fabricant451]*snip* [/quote] Most of this is fair. Lemme pull a couple of things that irked me..... hangon. [quote]when he calls illegal immigrants 'animals'[/quote] To clarify, before I go off the handle -- is it your assessment that Trump "called illegal immigrants animals," or is it your assessment that media [b]claims[/b] Trump called illegal immigrants animals? And/or that the latter was Trump's intent? [quote]Vague...The rally is full of exaggerations and blatant false statements...[/quote] That's a pretty simplistic characterization. My point being, if you were to analyze [i]any political speech[/i] by [i]any politician,[/i] you could probably say the same thing about it. The Gettysburg Address was vague and full of exaggerations and fal.... well.... okay maybe not the best example. But you get my point, surely -- the criticism, as I'm hearing it anyway, sounds like "business as usual, but I dislike it." My takeaways were (a) when he's defending his Charlottesville statements -- which I had no problem with -- he's doing it like he's debating on the internet, and it sounds dumb, and definitely not something he should've done for twenty minutes or whatever, because [i]why.[/i] But then also (b), nobody has ever called people out on their bullshit the way Trump calls people out on their bullshit, and (c) end of the day, that single rally produced more energy than Hilary's entire campaign. The man is doing [i]something[/i] right, in terms of leadership. Specific policy-wise, I could go either way. I'm not crazy about doing away with the 60% rule in the Senate, but it's not a ridiculous bridge to cross at this point. I'd rather leave it in place though. Sheriff Joe -- I dunno, I was in his corner for a while until I read some of the accusations against him. Then I think, you know, I've met lawyers before, "accusations" aren't everything. If he were convicted for treatment of prisoners that'd be one thing -- his actual conviction, for which he was pardoned (as I understand it anyway) was for enforcing the law against the court's wishes. The court doesn't get to legislate. I don't have a problem with that pardon [i]but I haven't looked into it much,[/i] Idunno. I could be convinced it's a dick move.