[quote=@rebornfan320] [@Poi] Then like Snow i think you two do not understand where i am coming from in terms of creativity or the ability to take a character and start from a set point then. [/quote] You can be creative with or without canon characters. Many people have created interesting OCs--just look at the character sheet section on RPG. Nonetheless, some people, like myself, don't find an interest in playing as canon characters, and that is all you're offering. [quote=@rebornfan320] i think it's a limit on the creativity angle for both of you and i think both of you believe what i want is terrible. [/quote] Neither of us said your ideas were terrible. You simply asked why your ideas weren't appealing to others, and both of us gave our own opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I'm sure there are some on RPG that think opposite to both [@ArenaSnow]'s and I's beliefs.