[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] [@Fabricant451] KH1 doesnt have limit breaks so you calling me objectively wrong about the game's mechanics just lost a bit of it's punch.[/quote] It has Special Attacks which are the same thing and what I meant. [quote]If I don't care about bland characters then I'm not doing anything wrong, the development is trope-ridden and simplistic and that's worse than it being non-existent.[/quote] You think they're bland when they aren't. You can dislike the archetype that Sora is or think that Riku is a bit cliche in regards to his role but that doesn't make them bland characters. [quote]And yeah, I forgot jump attacks, deep combat bro.[/quote] Your glibness does you no credit. [quote]Playing Sora like a mage is ineffective in KH1, the menu scroll in real time is to cumbersome to use magic consistently in mid level fights and you still have to do a shit load of rolling, its not smooth or visceral, that's why 80% of the time on speedruns OR regular lets plays or playthroughs they are spamming that god awful combo. The game isnt designed well enough for you to successfully mix it up in KH1.[/quote] Menu scroll? Dude that's what shortcuts are for. The game IS designed well for the type of game it is, and the game is designed around the combat. It can be beaten at level one not because the combat is shallow but because it's designed to be played in a variety of ways. It's a game where your HP numbers don't even break triple digits, it's not complex. But just because it isn't a Platinum game doesn't mean it's a shallow system. [quote]But I mean if you're going to say that KH1 of all fucking things has a better Battle System, story, and character development than something like Tales Of Vesperia then I'm just going to have to tune out and post Gifs.[/quote] Battle system? No. Story? Character development? Ehhhhhh that's debatable. Vesperia is probably the single most overrated game in the franchise, taking the crown from Symphonia. Vesperia has a grand total of two likable characters and none of them are Yuri. I fully expect a gif because that's what you do anyway. [quote]And Cid can still be an ass without swearing, look at Dante for christ sake. [/quote] Dante isn't an ass so much as he is aggressively cocky. Also Dante is a shit character anyway. [quote=@Leaves] Wait. What? You know what. I'll take it. It's better than nothing. Fabrican pressed ▲ to win argument. [/quote] I like Kingdom Hearts 1 and one third of Birth By Sleep. Kingdom Hearts is a trashfire of a video game franchise and I hate it and I hate that I've played all of them.