[quote=@Silver Carrot] I don't get the fuss about climate change. There was an ice age once. that's climate change. Going from sunny to rainy is climate change. Are patterns altering slightly as a direct result of human activity? Yes. Are humans single-handedly killing the planet? No. If anything, our actions will make the Earth uninhabitable for humans and will kill ourselves, but the planet will be fine. But I don't think we're in any danger of doing that either. [/quote] It's the animals I really care about, but there's also the 7 billion people in the way.