Thanks for taking the effort to fully explain yourself magnum. I always explain to myself that the huge hate towards religion on the internet (not saying that it's on this forum, but in general) due to the fact that atheist, agnostic or whatever people far outweigh theists on the internet for the most part, atleast on sites I frequent, and it's actually the first time a non-theist group of people have been in the majority and they feel the need for a sort of payback for all the prejudices they experienced as the minority.

Zaresto, thanks aswell for explaining yourself, I see where you coming from but personally I Still believe the thought of heaven to be a very healthy motivator in life, I'm going to pull from personal experiences, which is kind of unfair as it makes it harder for you to counter-point my argument with me going "Are you calling my mother a liar" or something. But the personal story actually does regard my mother, when her father died a few years ago she was absolutely devastated, she was literally a shell of her old self. And I think the one thing that pulled her out of it was the prospect of him being in a better place now. She commonly mentions to us how he is always "looking out for her" in the forms of little trivial bits of good luck, should it be a free parking space, a safe drive home on frosty roads, or a machine giving back extra change, just stupid little positive things that are very easy to ignore. But I believe that the thought of someone looking out for you, just doing their best to make life a little easier for you is such an attractive and mood altering thing, because now, whenever she is in a bad mood, she will try her hardest look for any little bit of positivity in her life. And I can say from personal experience that depression starts when you ignore the positive and focus on the negative