[quote=@mdk] Plenty to spin off on here -- most I could summarize by saying "We're a Christian-majority democracy, it's only natural." The laws about who can run for office should definitely go.... but this quote brings up this week's classic mdk rrant [/quote] Not too ball bust for something innocuous to the following paragraphs. But I will point out really quick that we are a constitutional republic. Not a democracy, the founding fathers were adamant about how absolutely evil a pure democracy is. (You probably knew that but clarifying for those who may not.) [quote=@Odin] This sounds a lot like the argument that `you can't do x or y because it's against the constitution` but constitutions are changed, literally all the time, and most often without the people noticing. These amendments are the same and so are rights - they can be taken away from you [i]much[/i] easier than they are given to you. As far as I am concerned you don't have a right to anything, and that goes for literally anyone on this planet. [/quote] Also something I feel like clarifying and adding to that particular paragraph. The assumption that the constitution constantly changes and under the noses of the people. When the fact is that changing or adding an amendment to the Constitution is the hardest thing you can do, and was purposely designed that way by the creators. And the last time it actually had anything change about it was in 1992. (I'm also pretty sure that there hasn't ever been a scenario where an amendment has been outright removed.) if you're really want to get into the more recent Amendments that were added later, you could get into that Constitutional argument. I feel like that nihilistic idea doesn't really even make that much sense, especially if you're religious. Saying you don't have a right to anything, like self-preservation goes against the concept of humanity itself.