I'll respond here since it's the proper thread. [quote]To me that's the same as saying "I knowing he's a raping, murdering, racist homophobic lunatic. But he's a nice guy if you get to know him". Not in the sense that I claim all religious people are like that (In fact, that's not what I'm implying in the slightest). But in terms of how I view the Religion itself. The good and bad are all part of that religion, and I'm not going to ignore all the vile stuff in the religion just cause it might also have some good in it.[/quote] Well I don't ignore the vile parts of religion, I just recognize that not everybody chooses to act on them. There are religious people who are capable of being decent, even if it does take massive cherry-picking to get there. I'd rather have decent half-assed followers than a bunch of Bible literalist fundies.