[quote=Jorick] Hah, that term. It amuses me that people felt the need to relabel secular humanism as "New Atheism" just because Dawkins and Hitches and others got big sales with their books. But yeah, I can understand why you'd be hesitant to bring up specifics, because I can guarantee that there would indeed be debate, and I'd almost certainly be one of those arguing against you.[/quote]

Well that's exactly it. I don't like Hitchens, Dawkins, etc. However, I do respect Dawkins for his work in evolutionary biology. He should have just stuck to that though since it's what he's actually good at. 

[quote]Atheism+ and its ilk are garbage, largely because they're not "New Atheism" in any way. They have all sorts of dogma at work and reject a lot of reason (particularly that which contradicts their dogma), so they don't fit into the modern secular humanist category that is "New Atheism."[/quote]

There's many dogmatic atheists and I don't like them either. Like there's that whole "atheist church" thing. That just seems weird. Why set up something that is almost universally a symbol of the exact group you claim to oppose? I have also noticed there tends to be a lot of conspiracy theorists in the atheist community. I suppose "free thinking" for them is taken a bit too literal. *shrugs*