[quote=Jorick]
Just because you don't agree with his opinions doesn't mean he isn't good at the secular humanism thing. But yeah, I figured that would be your reason for disliking it. We could skip having any sort of debate on the matter and ag
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That's not my reason for disliking them. It was just another point I brought up. I'd rather not get into why I dislike them as it could turn ugly. I need sleep soon anyway(class in the morning).